Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700 (2024)

Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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    Hi All,

    My hydraulic fluid is pretty low - is it typical to "lose" fluid over time, does it kindof cook away? (this 1983 Ford 1700 is new to me so I don't know it intimately yet). Anyhow, manual calls for M2C-134A and Tractor Supply doesn't have it. Can't find any on eBay...

    Thoughts?

    Thank you!

    Jay

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      Most quality transhydraulic fluids will meet the Ford Spec M2c-134A and I believe the latest is M2c-134D and is backward compatible. Read the label on the container.
      The fluid disn't "cook off";it leaks out and it also colllects water via condensation espeicially if you don't use it often and/or operate for long periods of time to cause it to get warm and evaporate off the condensation.

      Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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        I have used Mystick brand from TSC for the last 7 years in my Ford 1700. I did not find any ill effect as the result. Dipstick inspection of the after 250 hrs looks pretty good.

        JC,

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          Thanks all. TSC I would assume is Tractor Supply...?

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            jpilk99 said:

            Thanks all. TSC I would assume is Tractor Supply...?

            Yes. Make sure to read the back of the container to verify it meets M2C-134A.

            JC,

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              Remember that the last letter is a revision. That means that 134b meets 134a specs. A lot of the generic UTF's that I have seen are 134b or 134c which is fine for you.

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                i know i've used tsc and walmart UTF's for years now. never a problem.

                DO read the label. etc.

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                  Phillips PowerTran Fluid is available in two viscosity grades for use over a wide range of temperatures. The heavier viscosity grade is suitable for year-round use in most climates, whereas the “Low Viscosity” grade is recommended for use in cold climates where a John Deere J20D fluid is specified.
                  Do a Google search for Phillips PowerTran Fluid in a pdf file and the info. will really help you .

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                    wow.. big time zombie thread!

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                      mostly_gas said:

                      Remember that the last letter is a revision. That means that 134b meets 134a specs. A lot of the generic UTF's that I have seen are 134b or 134c which is fine for you.

                      Hi. I'm going back to do some Maintenance/Service on my wonderful 1983 Ford 1700 and find myself back to being curious about "Hydraulic System Oil" that the manual talks about. It certainly says I should get the M2C-134(x) ...which I am not finding, where the "x" is either A, B, C, D etc. and knowing they're backwards compatible. But the manual also says, "Should the recommended engine oil not be readily available, use a commercial oil as shown in the following chart" and that chart goes on to list SAE 10W30, 10W40 for Year Around. Or SAE 10W... and a few other options given the temperatures outside...

                      But my question/concern is: I am planning to do as much maintenance as possible - and going to work on the front differential, front axle, rear axle etc... So can I just put SAE 10W30 in all those places? Because it looks like the M2C-134A is what they say to use in them...?

                      Thanks. Hope i'm not being overly exacting here - just don't want to hurt my machine. Thanks!

                      Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700 (2024)

                      FAQs

                      What is 134 hydraulic oil? ›

                      Multi G-134 hydraulic fluid is a multi-purpose fluid for hydraulic systems, wet brakes, various PTO clutch systems, differentials and transmissions in farm tractors. It creates a rust- and corrosion-resistant lubrication, and is slow to oxidize. It is a medium-duty oil, with good anti-wear properties.

                      Is there a difference between hydraulic fluid in hydraulic oil? ›

                      In summary, hydraulic oil is a type of hydraulic fluid. However, unlike hydraulic oils, hydraulic fluids are used in automatic transmissions and are an alternative to hydraulic oil when flammability is a potential issue involved in operating environments.

                      Can any oil be used in a hydraulic system? ›

                      Hydraulic equipment used indoors under normal service conditions generally use a conventional antiwear hydraulic oil with the appropriate viscosity. The most commonly used viscosities are ISO 32, 46, or 68, since these are able to lubricate and protect the system under the normal range of operating temperatures.

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